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I don’t think I’ve strung together so many words in a format like this since term papers in college. It’s a lot harder than poetry. But I’m going to give it a shot. Probably the only time I’ll ever do this .

I want to talk about something that recently occurred & triggered a response in me well out of my normal quiet character. Those of you who know me from my writing here or from the years on Deep Underground, know that I’m a Survivor who writes her truth. I’m the opposite of secretive about it. No apologies there. It helps heal me.

But a writer on this site was maliciously attacked publicly. And she left the site as a result, believing nothing would be done about it. We all have our breaking point. She hit hers. However, the attacker was a serial abuser who had a history of the behavior from the old site. I spoke with & witnessed multiple women fall under the abuse & harassment. I became concerned that it would continue & more women would be harmed. It’s a very strong probability, given previous behavior patterns.

I’m not a vigilante. Not a crusader. I’m not going to attack anyone publicly or air any grievances in any retaliative manner. That’s not who I am. But if I witness abuse, I’m not the person who can quietly put her head down & look away. I have no judgment on those who do. We all have our triggers & boundaries. I don’t know their story or why they feel unsafe stepping up. I’m not built like that. What I will do is pretty much what I did do.

I wrote Fact or Fiction earlier but hoped it would never see daylight. The first half is using paraphrased verbiage witnessed by or shared with me by women who were abused by the individual in this situation. Those words & phrases were softened a great deal, trust me. The second half refers to the fact that those women hit their breaking point. Their voices are no longer with us, so I lent them mine. I then wrote Whatcha Got? as a declaration. I will not stay silent. The next thing I did was contact site administration & kept in communication with them to resolve the situation. I’m not going to point fingers or name names. That’s not what this is.

This is about community. Every community has predators. But the tighter the community is, the harder it is for predators to get a foothold. Many of us come from a home whose doors closed suddenly. It was more than poetry. It was emotions & memories, thoughts & philosophies, hopes & dreams. It was humor & tears, camaraderie & kvetching, it was riotous sex in the halls & quiet nature journeys. It was a hard loss & will be missed for itself. But we have the opportunity to build a community here just as strong, or stronger.

We lost someone because she believed she didn’t matter enough to defend. Well, she was wrong. And anyone who believes I will sit in my corner quiet as a mouse while it’s done to anyone else will see this mouse become an R.O.U.S. I will do the same for any of you.

Site administrators moved quickly to manage the damage (huge thanks to them!), but we still lost someone. A member who was a huge supporter to many of you. I believe her comment count was among the highest here. We’re all going to feel that loss in one way or another. I don’t want it to happen to anyone else. I don’t want to lose another home, another family. If I witness it again, I will do exactly as I did; work with the administrators to resolve the issue.

I’m not a “public speaker.” Quite frankly it scares the shit out of me. And this is more words than I’m used to fusing together in one place. So I’m going to retreat to my little corner now & recover. Take care of yourselves & be good to each other.

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    1. Good write. Unfortunately, there are shadows on the net. 98% of the time, these same shadows are one cell narcistic amoebas that spew hate. One’s best tool, on the media, is common sense. A Mod should be given the tools to vanish an imposter of the human race. Abuse of any nature should be flung from the balustrade of Stars.

        • The culprit was steven. I’ll name him because he drove me off the site by talking about my terminal illness. He’s gone so I’m back. As MYSELF.
          His profile name on DUP was PoeticDelight (Hamid). He terrorized many of us- females that write erotica and didn’t want him stalking our DM’s. So he was banned a bunch of times and would comeback and write poems about us without naming us. As females who write erotica we would be told things like “that’s what you get for writing dirty” BECAUSE WE ARE WOMEN. And he was allowed to return every single time while women were traumatized.

          Willow has grace. I do not.

    2. Thank you for being who you are – both mouse and lion. (or R.O.U.S – love the reference!)

      All my life, and especially in my years of poetry forums, I’ve only ever become aware of dramas after they’ve happened. I don’t know whether I’m ridiculously inattentive, or just lucky, or if I should feel guilty that I wasn’t in the trenches fighting (which is ridiculous when I’ve not even been aware there WERE trenches). In this case I know I’ve just wandered in after the fact… but I appreciate what you’ve done for the community and will do the same if the situation ever calls for it. Thank you for leading the way.

      Have a good rest.
      ❤k

      • If you see someone being harassed/abused, speak to Fia or Bobbington. They did a great job sorting this out. Moderators handled it on DU, so you may have been fortunate enough to appear after the fact. The beauty of having a life outside the site. I’m glad you’ve never had to see it. It’s gut wrenching. We have to look out for our community. I’m on duty any time I’m online. Thank you

    3. Amen, Willow. Into the book it belongs! I agree with you 100%, and thank you for getting out of your comfort zone to make this known. It is our community and creative home, no one should have to put up with that kind of bullshit. Also, this was well written my friend. Appreciate you.

      Damian

      • SO far out of my comfort zone that it’s taken me this long to recover. People bicker & snipe at each other all the time. It’s human behavior. But outright abuse…that shit don’t fly with me. Thank you, my friend

      • Oh shit, I’m not sure I even know how to mince words anymore. Life is too uncertain to dilly dally around. I say it as I see it & I will tear down walls to rescue someone trapped inside a predator’s grasp. Thank you

    4. I think the culprit should be named, so everyone knows that they are not good people.
      I don’t want to be friends with, or even comment with, on someone with poor morals.

    5. The poetry community needs writers that are passionate. But some people turn it into something else. And I get the Internet can bring out the worst in us but we should all encourage the art and put aside the BS. Honestly I dealt with a lot of this on DUP and that’s why I keep to myself. I deal with enough drama off the Internet.

      • We all need a safe space to clear our heads, to express the shit we maybe can’t in the “real world.” There will always be those who prey on us. I’m just not willing to sit down & shut up anymore. I too dealt with it on DU. Life is hard enough. This should be our safe{r} space. Thank you

    6. I fear that no space is safe from people like that. Everywhere I go, there is always at least one. I will say that this is probably one of the better places because people actually care but it is still sad when people abuse something that should be so far from that.
      I too, as many others have said, wish we could name the offender or even the victim. Too often people like that get away with it because they operate where no one else can see and their targets suffer more for it. I would have liked to potentially lend support to whoever the “she” is that was treated this way. It doesn’t erase what was done but some of the most meaningful interactions I’ve had with other people is when I found out they stood up for me even when they didn’t have to and had nothing to gain. I hope maybe someday they’ll come back and give it a try.
      At least there are people like you who are willing to speak up for them and against that type of behavior.

      • The she in this case was the account Adira. The abuser was named above by Mary (Adira)…who has returned. Any time you see anything like what was described, reach out to the site administrators. They may already be aware & working on it. Or they not be aware yet. Much of this community migrated from a site of nearly 20 years that closed in May. We’re probably pretty protective of our new home & this new community. Predators are on every corner, but this community can shove them back into the gutter if we look out for each other. Thank you

    7. Mary, thank you for pointing me towards Willow’s post. I am glad action was taken and hope this beautiful place on the internet will remain free of this person. Willow and you are amazing gifts to this place. Never forget that.

      • As a community, we can make this a safe space. Report what looks like abuse. Nobody needs to just quietly take it. Too many women on DU fell to his abuse. Some never returned. Until he attacked Mary here, I hadn’t realized she was one of his targets on DU as well. I’m glad the administrators shut it down before he got a foothold. Many thanks to them!

    8. People who bully online are miserable people, period. So they lash out in little pussy ways. They are insecure, depthually lonely, because no one wants to be around them. etc.
      Always call them out on their BS. Always. Send me their screen names, etc. I can be brutal.
      There are a few writers on here that I do not care for their material at all. Same as the other place. That’s putting it mildly. Yet, they have a right, as we all do, to participate. It’s easy enough to ignore them. But i will defend pretty much anyone from being harassed. The same as in real life.
      Never run from an online coward. Light them up.

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